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Should I install Eclipse before ide?

I installed the standalone IDE.  I have Java 6 update 33. IDE installs and opens.  However, it does not have the options displayed on most of the screen shots I have seen of  There is no File > New option.  There is no Window > Open Perspective.  It appears that I do not have the complete ide.


Do I have to install Eclipse first and the plugin instead?




You can either install IDE as a standalone application or add it as a plugin to existing eclipse.


When you install it as a Standalone application, the installers download Eclipse code as part of the installation and configures the IDE to launch as a standalong application.

You might want to check if you have the correct installer (32 bit /64 bit)
You may also want to check what version of JAVA JRE is installed on your system


If you are already an Eclipse User, that's when you install IDe as a plugin.


you may already have these link but just in case..

Hope this helps.


Thanks!  Which version of Java JRE do I need?  I have Java 6 update 33.  Is that correct?  Or do I need to install the JRE too?




Are you gettig any error? Doesn't seem like you'd have to install JRE.  

when you click on File, do you only have the Exit option or do you have any other options?


There could be few reasons for your issue. 




My answer would be Yes


Yes, you should install full Eclipse first so that you can use it for *everything* not just SF! :-)