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jwalker
Force IDE Frustration
Hello,
I'm a relatively experienced developer, but am new to salesforce. A client has asked us to put together an application to demo some things for them. I've been able to do what I want to do so far, but I've been having a number of headaches with salesforce in general.
My first issue was that building things (Objects, Tabs, Apps, etc) with the web-interface, while functional, was way too slow to do things on the scale I want to do them. This is understandable -- it's a web interface, and it needs to be usable by users at every point along the experience spectrum.
I looked around for a more "heavyweight" solution for developing Salesforce stuff and found the Force IDE plugin for Eclipse (distributed on this website). I've got that up and running, and while it works, I seem to keep hitting weird annoying glitches.
My most recent frustration is the IDE's weird tendency to revert all the changes I made to an object if it fails validation -- I'll hit Alt+F S to save, it will churn for a bit, throw an error in the "Problems" tab and then mysteriously revert all the changes I made since last succesful (error free save). I'm able to work around by hitting Ctrl+Z, but obviously this is really annoying.
I'm sure this is related to me doing something wrong, but it seems like it's one thing after another. I'm a developer so I understand that it can take a while to get the bugs worked out of things, but this is really frustrating. Is there an alternate way to do this stuff? Is there anyway I can use Visual Studio? Is there a more polished version of the Eclipse plugin? Thanks for any help you guys can give me,
-John
I'm a relatively experienced developer, but am new to salesforce. A client has asked us to put together an application to demo some things for them. I've been able to do what I want to do so far, but I've been having a number of headaches with salesforce in general.
My first issue was that building things (Objects, Tabs, Apps, etc) with the web-interface, while functional, was way too slow to do things on the scale I want to do them. This is understandable -- it's a web interface, and it needs to be usable by users at every point along the experience spectrum.
I looked around for a more "heavyweight" solution for developing Salesforce stuff and found the Force IDE plugin for Eclipse (distributed on this website). I've got that up and running, and while it works, I seem to keep hitting weird annoying glitches.
My most recent frustration is the IDE's weird tendency to revert all the changes I made to an object if it fails validation -- I'll hit Alt+F S to save, it will churn for a bit, throw an error in the "Problems" tab and then mysteriously revert all the changes I made since last succesful (error free save). I'm able to work around by hitting Ctrl+Z, but obviously this is really annoying.
I'm sure this is related to me doing something wrong, but it seems like it's one thing after another. I'm a developer so I understand that it can take a while to get the bugs worked out of things, but this is really frustrating. Is there an alternate way to do this stuff? Is there anyway I can use Visual Studio? Is there a more polished version of the Eclipse plugin? Thanks for any help you guys can give me,
-John
Sorry to hear things have not been going smoothly - I will forward this thread to some of the folks on our Eclipse team to see if we can help solve the revert issue - I hadn't seen that before.
The IDE is still beta, so please bear with us - and let us know if you have any other feedback!
I don't save my work from jEdit, I paste into Eclipse, save (which transfers it to the SF server), then I run it in a SF window (using Firefox, Firebug, Fiddler for various debug strategies).
When I get something that works, I right click on the file, Team, Commit - and give it an appropriate comment.
Since I'm still learning how all these tools could work together, I don't really have a crisp Standard Operating Procedure that I can publish at a decent CMMI (Capability Maturity Model Integration) level - but that's where I'm headed toward.
We avoid 'make-work' in our standards, and only adopt when they're seen as accelerating what we do in addition to adding quality, reproduce-ability, fault tolerance, and fault avoidance/prediction.
We're willing to share with like minded technicians who have something to add & if we get something we can all be comfortable with (at some level of quality), a best practice publication might be in order.
Any help is welcome.
Message Edited by MyGodItsCold on 02-15-2008 03:23 PM
It definitely would make the platform much more appealing if there was a nice, powerful all in one development tool of the caliber of something like Visual Stuidio or Dreamweaver. (Not easy to make I'm sure!)
-John
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Force.com IDE (14.0.2.200812101436) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.ui (3.2.0)", or compatible.
any ideas how to fix this issue, i would greatly appreciated.
I'm getting the same error as radliberty.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am following the instructions here:
http://wiki.developerforce.com/index.php/Force.com_IDE_Installation_for_Eclipse_3.3.x
First, let me correct an earlier statement I made - Eclipse does allow multiple windows, I was just too new to it to get to it.
Next, please be sure you're using the version of Eclipse that SF requests - along with the additional plugins. If you follow the installation guide ... exactly, then all should go well.
As a final point - I did have some difficulties a while back when upgrading to a new version of the plugin. I removed Eclipse all together & did a re-install - everything was fine (btw, it was much easier to do than I imagined).
I followed the instructions here exactly: http://wiki.developerforce.com/index.php/Force.com_IDE_Installation_for_Eclipse_3.3.x
I installed Eclipse from the link on this page. It was a fresh install so I don't know what could be the problem.
I am not on 15 yet, but I do have 14 (the same exact version number as above). I went looking for the org.eclipse.ui in my list of installed packages, but a brief scan didn't turn it up - perhaps it's buried in one of the plug-ins. I'm not sure how else to request it than to do what's in the install directions.
Bottom line is, I have no idea. Hopefully someone from SF will jump in. - or open a case w/ SF - if you have support (I don't know what the support options are, we're lucky enough to have the ability to open cases).
I too got the same error. I just tried cancelling all the opertaion and restarting my PC.:smileytongue:
It worked.
Thanks